Jonathan AtkinsonSession Drummer (Kim Wilde / Dr Who / Howard Jones) https://twitter.com/jonatkinsondrum
"Drumdrops have really managed to capture the essence and vibe of the kits they've recorded. They have a sound which is unlike most of the other sample libraries out there, in that they don't sound massively over produced, or have the imprint of one (overly identifiable) room. They sound like you're sitting behind a beautifully tuned set of drums. The Kontakt version has lots of great extras, including a sweet sounding EQ, and a very versatile Transient Master. The Kontakt pack really comes to life when played from e-drums, and has instantly earned a place as part of my live electronics rig."
Joe HirstProducer / Writer / Mix Engineer (Roll Deep / Gabrielle / Ian Brown / Alex Clare) http://www.140db.co.uk/writerproducers/joe-hirst/
"The new Big R Kit is perfect to use in Maschine: the quality and depth of the samples combined with the creative possibilities of the platform provide a truly expansive dub experience! The Big R Kit is also a refreshing change from the many standard rock and pop kits."
Matt FosterProducer / Writer / Mix Engineer (Yeah Yeah Yeahs / Ludacris / Lawson) http://www.audioengineeruk.com
"The Dub Kit is an awesome sounding and versatile drum set, presented in a perfectly executed interface... It's already found it's way into a number of productions. I'm particularly taken with the sound and dynamic of the hi-hat in conjunction with the snare, really cool for getting a drum track that has serious depth and grooves effortlessly!"
Adrian BreakspearProducer / Engineer (The Saturdays / Stereophonics / Ricky Martin) http://www.adrianbreakspear.com
"Characterful and natural, this pack is a great starting point for programming not only dub, but any style where a slightly left-field yet recognisably "live" drum sound is required. And the spring impulses sound great too!"
Mikael AdleSound Designer / Composer / Artist Leap Into The Void http://liv.mikaeladle.se
"This kit sounds amazing. Especially the snare and the hats are by far the best I’ve heard and played in a sampled kit. The dub spirit of Carlton Barrett must have been present during the recordings."
Russ DiscipleMusician / Writer / Producer Disciples https://www.facebook.com/russ.disciple
"This set is my first foray into using Drumdrops samples, and whilst i may not have much of a history with working with live drums i have been listening to reggae for near 35 years and i can at least tell that these have a good solid quality to them, you can hear and feel the weight in the kick drum, and there`s edge and bite in the hihats and snares, everything sits together well and is great for an authentic 70`s roots reggae sound, splash on some of your favorite spring reverbs and filters and your in dubwise heaven."
Bedroomproducersblog.comDecember 2013 Written by: Tomislav Zlatic
Drumdrops have expanded their Kontakt instrument arsenal with the release of Rogers Big R Dub Kit, a multi-sampled acoustic drum kit designed for use in dub music. I was pretty eager to test the Roger...
Drumdrops have expanded their Kontakt instrument arsenal with the release of Rogers Big R Dub Kit, a multi-sampled acoustic drum kit designed for use in dub music. I was pretty eager to test the Rogers Big R Dub Kit as I was rather impressed with the Premier Outfits 54 Drum Kit which was recently released by Drumdrops. It turned out to be a perfect drum sample library for indie and pop music, featuring a set of high quality samples of a vintage British drum kit similar to the one used by Ringo Starr of The Beatles. You can read the full review of the Premier Outfits kit by clicking here.
Drumdrops took a similar route with the Rogers Big R Dub Kit, building a unique drum sample library with meticulously recorded samples and pairing it up with a practical and brilliantly designed NI Kontakt interface.
For this drum sample library, Drumdops have sampled a 1970s Rogers drum set located in Miloco’s Ironworks Studio in Brighton. The same drum set was previously used for recording their acclaimed Dub Volume 3 and Drumdrops in Ska drum loop collections.
The sample library features one kick drum (a 24″ x 14″ Roger Big R Kick Drum) with dampened and undampened articulations, two snare drums (Ludwig Black Magic Snare Drum and Ludwig Acrolite Snare Drum) with four articulations each, one hi-hat (Zildjian A Sweet Hi Hat), one crash cymbal (Zildjian Custom A Crash), two Rogers Big R rack toms, one Rogers Big R floor tom, timbale, bongos, and a cool additional set of electronic percussion sounds which are controlled using modulation. Each part of the drum set comes with up to 16 velocity layers and 6 round robin layers, resulting in a lively, non-artificial performance when playing the kit.
The great thing about this sample collection is that it provides a breath of fresh air among all the rock and metal drum sample packs which we regularly see. It is a unique sounding dub drum kit with hardly any direct competition on today’s market.
For years and years I’ve been impressed by the drum sound on the Scientist Rids the World of the Evil Curse of the Vampires album by Scientist. Here’s my favorite track from that album and pretty much one of my favorite tracks ever. I’ve been trying so hard to achieve that sweet and sticky (in lack of better words) drum sound with other sample libraries, but I’ve never actually nailed it. The thing is that you can get only so much closer with tape saturation, compression and EQ, but the natural sound of the drum kit is what actually defines the overall feel.
And wow, I was so happy when I played around with the Rogers Big R Dub Kit for the first time, because it provides that exact starting point which is needed for building great sounding dub loops. The kick drum is tight and punchy, the snare sounds so sweet and snappy. The entire drum kit layers perfectly with the huge and dominant bass guitar sound which is the foundation of my favorite dub mixes. In the words of Tuco Salamanca, this kit is tight… tight, tight, yeah!
To read the rest of this review head over to here:-
Computer MusicFebruary 2014 Score: 9/10
Available in Single Hits, Multi-Velocity and - reviewed here - Kontakt 5 versions (see website for details), this five-piece drum kit with extra percussion and a choice of two snare sounds wicked and ...
Available in Single Hits, Multi-Velocity and - reviewed here - Kontakt 5 versions (see website for details), this five-piece drum kit with extra percussion and a choice of two snare sounds wicked and includes a basic mixer. Being so tight-sounding, esay to play and affordable, it's the sort of acoustic kit that producers or any kind of music - "live" or electronic - will find plenty of use for.Read More
Sound On SoundFebruary 2014 Written by: Tom Flint
The drum kit used to create the Rogers Big R Dub Kit was put together specifically for dub and ska music, and was used for the Drumdrops In Dub Volume 3 and Drumdrops In Ska sample libraries. Unlike t...
The drum kit used to create the Rogers Big R Dub Kit was put together specifically for dub and ska music, and was used for the Drumdrops In Dub Volume 3 and Drumdrops In Ska sample libraries. Unlike those products, however, this library can be used as an instrument in Kontakt or as a source of drum samples for other sample players. Indeed, like Drumdrops' 1963 Premier Outfits 54 Kit that we reviewed in September, it can be purchased in full as a Kontakt instrument, as a set of multi-velocity samples with templates for all the major software samplers, or simply as a collection of single-hit samples.
The kit features two Ludwig snares, namely a 14 x 6.5-inch Black Magic and a very different-sounding 14 x 5-inch Acrolite. They are joined by the titular Rogers 'Big R' 24 x 14-inch bass drum, a 16 x 16-inch Premier floor tom and two Rogers rack toms. There's also a hi-hat and crash, a timbale drum, a set of bongos and even some electronic percussion created with a Boss PC2 Percussion Synthesizer and a Tama Techstar TS204.
The drummer, reggae specialist Horseman, was recorded by Mike Pelanconi at his own studio, The Ironworks, in Brighton, apparently making use of a custom 28-channel Class-A BBC console dating from the 1970s. Interestingly, the kit was recorded without room mics for a tight and dry sound, and also without compression.
The sound of the kit, as you'd expect, is tight but mellow, without much natural reverb and no resonance to speak of. The snares and toms are tuned high to give that classic reggae tone that combines with the timbale so well and sits nicely alongside lovely dubby bass lines. The kick and floor tom have a satisfying thud, but are resonance-free. In short, it's a long way from a typical rock kit sound.From there the user has the option of manipulating each drum sound using the mixer's EQ, pan controls and faders, various dub and reggae-specific delays and reverbs, and a transient processor. More in-depth editing can be achieved by adjusting velocity curves and individual tuning, and there is the option of affecting the whole mix using a bus compressor and tape saturation simulator.
In itself, the kit seems rather simple, but there are up to 16 velocity layers for each articulation and the 'Full' kit (there is a less memory-hungry 'Lite' version), offers round-robin variations for realism. Apparently the kit uses 5352 samples in all, which is quite impressive. On the keyboard, the snare, kick and toms have no more than two key options each, so even though the sampling and scripting is complicated, playing is not. The hi-hat, though, which can be hit in different ways and played open, closed or somewhere in between, has quite a number of options that are spread out across two octaves of black notes.
There are no MIDI grooves or audio loops included, but compared to products that do offer those kind of features, the Rogers kit costs very little. All in all, it provides a lot of quality for relatively little money, and there can be no complaints about that.
digitaldrummermag.comApril 2014 Written by: Allan Leibowitz
Product review: Kontakt 5 packs by Drumdrops
BRITISH SAMPLE PRODUCER Drumdrops is best known for its drum tracks an...
Product review: Kontakt 5 packs by Drumdrops
BRITISH SAMPLE PRODUCER Drumdrops is best known for its drum tracks and loops, but now the “purveyors of the finest live drum multi-tracks, stems, drum loops, drum samples and single hit kits” (according to the company schtick) has begun packaging its wares for e- drummers, with two sample packs currently on offer for the Kontakt 5 engine.
Drumdrops first released a 1970s Rogers Big R Dub Kit, and has followed it up with a 1963 Premier Outfits 54 pack.
Both require a full version of Kontakt – not just the free Player, so that might discourage a bunch of potential users.
I’m not a huge fan of the Kontakt engine, but I do like NI’s Studio Drummer, so I’ve stuck with Kontakt just for that.
The Drumdrops packs are available by download only – the first one weighs in at a modest 1.2 GB; the second is much larger, at 2.5 GB.
The packs are easy to install – simply unzip them and ensure that you know where they’re saved so that you can access them with Kontakt.
And that’s the first challenge. Unfortunately, the kits can’t be loaded as a library, so you’ll have to use the host’s file tab to hunt for them. It’s a bit tedious and time-consuming when you first load the kits, but it soon becomes second nature.
The Rogers kit offers a fairly limited instrument range - a 24”x16” Rogers Big R bass, 14”x6.5” Ludwig Black Magic snare, 14”x5” Ludwig Black Acrolite snare, two Rogers Big R rack toms and a cannon-like 16”x16” 1963 Premier floor tom.
The hats are Zildjian A Sweet 15” and there’s a Zildjian Custom A 17” crash. If you’re more dub kit-savvy than me, you’ll know not to look for a ride (seriously, a VST pack without a ride?).
There are also some percussion bits – a 14” timbale, hi and lo bongos and a couple of electronic percussion pieces - a Boss PC-2 Percussion Synthesizer and a Tama Techstar TC-204.
Despite the significantly larger download, there are actually fewer kit pieces in the Premier kit. You’ll have to settle for just one snare in this offering – a 14”x5.5” Vintage Premier Royal Ace. The rest of the pieces are a 20”x16” Vintage 1963 Premier bass drum with a 12”x8” rack tom and a 16”x16” floor tom for the same kit.
The pies consist of 14” Zildjian New hats, a 22” Zildjian K Custom Medium Ride and two Zildjian crashes – an 18” K Dark Thin Crash and a 16” Zildjian Vintage Crash.
The Drumdrops interface consists of three tabs.
The Mixer tab is much like other Kontakt mixers where you control the volume of the individual drums. You can also choose the balance of overhead and room mics and apply various reverbs.
The Kit tab contains a realistic kit image, and the ability to audition drums and cymbals by clicking on them – much more useful than NI’s inbuilt mini-keyboard. Here, you can also tune all the instruments and select velocity curves.
The Settings tab could really be called the MIDI tab, because this panel allows you to select MIDI maps and also to change notes and articulations, with an intuitive “learn” function. And it’s worth noting that there are preset maps for most of the popular e-drum options - Yamaha DTX-900, 2box and Roland as well as Addictive Drums, Superior Drummer, SSD and BFD.
And the MIDI mapping was spot-on for the options I tried – including very accurate hi-hat variations (open, 1⁄4, 1⁄2, 3⁄4 and closed steps for bow and edge as well as open and closed splash) and cymbal chokes.
But if you’re more interested in playing than mixing, much of the work has been done for you in the range of presets, accessed very simply.
Both kits have 14 presets, with vastly different sounds and feels and wonderful names like Single Malt and Bitches Brew. So despite the limited kit pieces, these FX enhancements in effect deliver 14 additional kits to each pack – besides the almost infinite possibilities if you’d like to get down and dirty and start messing with the various effects, buses and modulation options. The Drumdrops interface consists of three tabs. The Mixer tab is much like other Kontakt mixers where you control the volume of the individual drums. You can also choose the balance of overhead and room mics and apply various reverbs.
My first encounter was with the Dub Kit and while I recognised the quality of the samples, the clarity and the depth of the presets, I was not taken with the sounds. But Dub’s not my genre, and I was too wrapped up in the absence of a ride to really give the VST pack much of a chance.
The classic '60s kit was a different kettle of fish. I was impressed with every kit piece and the overall kit, and could certainly use many of the presets in a covers band environment.
My one regret is that there aren’t more kit pieces, but I did discover a work-around. All that’s needed is to open a second instance of Drumdrops in Kontakt (I saved the kit with a new name), associate the toms with MIDI notes matching your additional triggers and then retune the toms in the Kit pane. I tuned two toms down a few steps to create a full harmonic complement of four. Just remember to solo the toms on the second set or you’ll end up with duplicate hits on all your other drums and cymbals.
If that sounds too much like hard work, then just remind yourself of what Ringo achieved with a four-piece kit.
Overall, the packs are both very playable and very listenable – and one can choose to run with the presets or dig a lot deeper and unleash some creativity. The packs have a 'round robin' option and various randomisation settings to avoid machine-gunning and robot-like sticking.
Interestingly, despite Drumdrops' loop heritage, no loops are provided with either pack. It's not something I miss, but some buyers might be disappointed by their absence.
Drumdrops has crafted some really useful samples and a batch of terrific and varied presets in two small packs.
The packs are moderately priced (£40 for the Dub Kit and £35 for the vintage Premier kit), but there are discounts if you buy more than one pack at a time and free samples with some purchases. At the time of writing, for example, Drumdrops was offering 20% off for anyone who simply opened a free account.
And here’s another tip. If you’re not a Kontakt fan, consider the Multi-velocity Packs, which are around a third of the price and can be loaded into some DAWs.
In short these two compact kits provide lots of tone and colour for some skilfully produced samples. They play well, sound great, offer tons of tweakability and won’t break the bank.